Bad Company 2 has officially been hacked by pb proof hacks

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Bad Company 2 has officially been hacked by pb proof hacks

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A clan can on the BF BC2 jif server last night and were incredible. Too incredible. I believe they bought this professional hacking company's hack for 20$:

http://www.fpscheats.com/

They(CTD clan) knew where everyone was at all the time. Shooting through dense foilage courtasey of what is called a CHAMS hacks. From the site, CHAMS colors all the players red and are seen through any intervening terrain, walls, foliage, etc. I had to leave. Riceman, Stinky, and I were on and a few others and we all thought something really weird is going on.

They've(this fpscheats.com company) appears to have been around now for some time and they are PB proof folks....and you can tell they have em licked since they are making money at it with lots of paying customers. I think the future of online gaming is dead unless some other geniuses can make a unhackable anit-cheat system...

Im 3 kinds of unhappy about this. It makes me depressed, sick to my stomach(literally) and @$#%^%^&@$%^ pissed-off!

8/ :twisted: :what:
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Can't the admin take screen-shots remote for players screens?
And then be able to take action (ban for ever).
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Hmmmmm...why dont BAN the hackers, then WE are hacking proof :shoot:
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Yeah, the worst was that guy in the T-90 tank who was somehow firing "over the horizon" and taking out M1s he could not possibly see.
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One of the things that has made the 42 server so popular is our admins that can take care of things when this stuff happens. I think it is time to look at adding some people to the in-game admin tool.

This hack may not be detectable right now but I sent the site into Even Balance, even though they are probably aware of it by now...you never know.

A little good news; our server is part of PBBans streaming bans. If someone gets banned for hacking on one of the other servers using the system they will be banned on our server as well. Same happens for our 42 servers.
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Ya taking screenshots was the first thing I though of but the hack detects when a screenshot is being sent and sends a normal or clear screen with the CHAMS removed. Pretty ingenious really. So taking screenshots wont do anything, but we could try I guess but the only real reliable way that I've ever know'n is my own gut feeling. I know we would hate to ban a good player that seems like hacking but now that there is no more reliable PB to protect us I think we all need to go with our gut.

For example, on the 2nd map after they came in(the winter map with lots of foliage and objects). Several rounds came right through the bushes and there is no fing way they can see me because I can't see them. I know you can toss out a motion sensor and what not but in hardcore mode they are rendered useless as there is no red-orang arrow pointing you out. Yes, you could bring up the map or mini map but that will not allow you to mow down people like they were doing when Line of Sight is blocked by foliage. You can shoot through foliage obviously but not like they were doing.

Also severel times(lost count it happened so much) I would spawn and be facing one of them trying to take the flag but they were not facing me. They COULD NOT have seen me but in a split second they whipped around and kill me in a few bullets. NOT POSSIBLE without an aimbot.

Alot of us are long time veterans of FPS, we know when something is really wrong. Our gut instinct combined with our years of experience is not perfect and it is hard to tell sometimes if a play er is just that good or hacking but I thiknn we need to operate like a Casino does when they suspect a cheat but can't prove it:

"I am sorry sir, but I have to ask you to leave, your play is too strong for us"

Personally, I'd rather risk making banning mistake than to leave it to chance and ruin the server/bgame which it's doing for me. I think we could trust 42 server regulars who are not starting to get the game and come in and play now but be very wary of players we don't know.

Another supporting piece to think about it that this game is alot harder to have a great score on. alot of us are very good fps players and in the first days of having it we are all experiencing the same thing, a k/d of below 1.0 which for yours truely is pretty hard to swallow (LOL). So there's a learning curve here and anyone that gets 22/2(example) ever game like a few of these guys were or thereabouts I am going to have to be automatically suspicious of hacking until the games been out for several more months.

Thanks, needed to vent I guess and share my thoughts. :twisted:
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I agree. I think there is someplace to put announcements in, one of them should be "If you are suspected of cheating, you may be banned without notice." Cycle that with our website and anyone that get's banned inadvertently could contest it in the forums. If nothing else it will make people think twice before they activate that hack.
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Perfectly said Mike, that would be excellent!

Who are the admins so far for BC2? Shouldn't all of us who are admins on 42 also be on any game hosted by Jif?

Oh and is there a BFRM for BC2 like for 42? We could try the screenshots, wouldn't hurt.
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Gib
I am with you on this one. I did not want to say anything since this was only my second time on a BC2 online map. I thought maybe it was just my inexperience but I did end up leaving because I was so tired of spawning or being concealed someplace and all at once have rounds coming in from so many different directions I could not do anything.
I know the guy you were talking about in the tank. I was on the right hand side of the map in the boulders. I could see our tanks behind me but could not see over the hill and see the tank that kept killing not only me but the tanks in our base. Thought something was very odd but just kept thinking it was just the learning curve.

I do have to say I think I like the game, but can not wait until I gain some experience so I can get some weapons that work! LOL
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One possible explanation that we discussed on TS is that there is a zoom unlock that he could have had. If so, then cool, can't wait to unlock it for armored vehicles and the helo(I think). So while frustrating on that map, is explanable.

But ya on the snow map, with the foliage, there was no freakin way you can mow down massess by seeing them through bushes without a CHAMS hack. Not turn 90 degress, head shot on spawn every time like they were doing without an aimbot. And on the later, it was instant...I've never seen ANYONE that good that can do it time and time and time again with perfect accuracy.
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I really haven't played many FPS on-line beyond BF42 and now BC2.

Is it common for a large group on clan members to all at once appear together on another server, and essentially dominate it?

I must admit, one thought I had is that these guys just move from server to server, mowing down the opposition until they get banned or bored. Kind of like a Borg cube.
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I was only around long enough last night to get owned for about 15 minutes, but I just assumed they were really good. I know Riceman was getting very frustrated (I could hear him from the other side of the house lol.)

On regards to admins, I completely agree Mike. We need more admins if the server is going to be picking up. Go ahead and add any JiFer who you feel should have it to the list.
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Hmm, that's..... cheap. Good there's not many hackers on the consoles :P :mrgreen:


Btw, I think the zoom unlock is Vehicle Optic. Always thought it only increased that radar vehicles have.
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Hi guys........well I've been playing 1942 since.........well since it came out, and your right you do get a kind of sixth sense when someones really a better player than they should be. I've always found out the cheats are usually really cocky b@stards and eventually give themselves away.
I often think why the hell they bother playing when there's no skill involved picking off other players so easily they might as well play with thier eyes closed.
So yes put more admin on your servers I'm sure you know by now who can be trusted to do a good job.
And finally fellas I honestly don't think there are so many cheaters out there that the games gonna get killed off.
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Yea I was most certainly was the definition of frustrated last night. We were experimenting with a 3rd party program that allowed us to set up in-game admins but its very unstable. We do have punkbusters protecting us but there are always hacks out there ahead of PB. Please let us know in the mean time if these CTD guys come back around, that way i can just ban them from our servers.

I have to admit they were a little too good, and the tank thing was proof of that. I tried using the optics upgrade as well and it's not that much of a zoom improvement.

Anyways, until a better in-gamin admin tool comes out we are kind of stuck.
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